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		<title>The Mail Online &#8211; now the most popular newspaper website worldwide?</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Sep 2011 21:07:56 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Dirk Singer</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[<div class="addthis_toolbox addthis_default_style " addthis:url='http://liesdamnedliesstatistics.com/2011/09/the-mail-online-now-the-most-popular-newspaper-website-worldwide.html' addthis:title='The Mail Online &#8211; now the most popular newspaper website worldwide? '  ><a class="addthis_button_facebook_like" fb:like:layout="button_count"></a><a class="addthis_button_tweet"></a><a class="addthis_counter addthis_pill_style"></a></div>Not everyone is a fan of the Daily Mail (myself included), but the online version of the UK tabloid continues to establish itself as one of the biggest Internet news brands worldwide. According to Comscore, in March 2011 the Mail and Guardian online were level pegging at 40-41 million odd visitors.      However by [...]<div class="addthis_toolbox addthis_default_style addthis_32x32_style" addthis:url='http://liesdamnedliesstatistics.com/2011/09/the-mail-online-now-the-most-popular-newspaper-website-worldwide.html' addthis:title='The Mail Online &#8211; now the most popular newspaper website worldwide? ' ><a class="addthis_button_preferred_1"></a><a class="addthis_button_preferred_2"></a><a class="addthis_button_preferred_3"></a><a class="addthis_button_preferred_4"></a><a class="addthis_button_compact"></a></div>]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div class="addthis_toolbox addthis_default_style " addthis:url='http://liesdamnedliesstatistics.com/2011/09/the-mail-online-now-the-most-popular-newspaper-website-worldwide.html' addthis:title='The Mail Online &#8211; now the most popular newspaper website worldwide? '  ><a class="addthis_button_facebook_like" fb:like:layout="button_count"></a><a class="addthis_button_tweet"></a><a class="addthis_counter addthis_pill_style"></a></div><p>Not everyone is a fan of the Daily Mail (myself included), <a href="http://www.dailymail.co.uk">but the online version</a> of the UK tabloid continues to establish itself as one of the biggest Internet news brands worldwide.</p>
<p><a href="http://liesdamnedliesstatistics.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/09/MailOnline.png"><img class="aligncenter size-full wp-image-2616" title="MailOnline" src="http://liesdamnedliesstatistics.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/09/MailOnline.png" alt="" width="598" height="476" /></a></p>
<p><a href="http://www.comscoredatamine.com/2011/09/visits-to-mail-online-more-than-double-over-past-six-months-in-uk/?utm_source=feedburner&amp;utm_medium=%24{datamine}&amp;utm_campaign=Feed%3A+comscoredatagems+%28The+comScore+Data+Mine%29">According to Comscore</a>, in March 2011 the Mail and Guardian online were level pegging at 40-41 million odd visitors.      However by August, the Guardian was in distant second place with the Mail attracting an amazing 85 million visitors / month compared to the Guardian&#8217;s 53 million.</p>
<p>It is worth mentioning that the major UK newspaper brands now get a large share of their web traffic from outside the country.    As far back as 2009, Comscore <a href="http://liesdamnedliesstatistics.com/2009/05/what-exactly-is-local-or-national-news-anyway.html">showed that between</a> 48%-73% of  UK newspaper site visitors were from outside the UK and I&#8217;d imagine that % will have increased by now.</p>
<p>A point to bear in mind if you are a UK PR getting coverage in the online edition of a UK newspaper &#8211; most of those X million eyeballs you quote your client in the coverage report are from outside the country.   Of course, that could be a positive depending who the client is.</p>
<p>Back in March, <a class="zem_slink" title="The Guardian" href="http://www.guardian.co.uk/" rel="homepage">The Guardian</a> said that <a href="http://www.guardian.co.uk/media/2011/apr/19/mail-online-website-popular">the Mail was the second most popular</a> English language news site after the New York Times.   It will be interesting to see if the Mail now has the no.1 spot, especially post the NYT&#8217;s (partial) pay wall.</p>
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		<title>NY Times more popular on Twitter, FT on the iPad than in print</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Oct 2010 05:35:41 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Dirk Singer</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[<div class="addthis_toolbox addthis_default_style " addthis:url='http://liesdamnedliesstatistics.com/2010/10/ny-times-more-popular-ft-on-the-ipad-than-in-print.html' addthis:title='NY Times more popular on Twitter, FT on the iPad than in print '  ><a class="addthis_button_facebook_like" fb:like:layout="button_count"></a><a class="addthis_button_tweet"></a><a class="addthis_counter addthis_pill_style"></a></div>When it comes to the decline of print media, the US is slightly ahead of curve compared to the UK, with the two countries occupying the number one and two spots in earlier OECD research about the decline of newspapers. As a result, it&#8217;s interesting to note a milestone from the US.   A study by [...]<div class="addthis_toolbox addthis_default_style addthis_32x32_style" addthis:url='http://liesdamnedliesstatistics.com/2010/10/ny-times-more-popular-ft-on-the-ipad-than-in-print.html' addthis:title='NY Times more popular on Twitter, FT on the iPad than in print ' ><a class="addthis_button_preferred_1"></a><a class="addthis_button_preferred_2"></a><a class="addthis_button_preferred_3"></a><a class="addthis_button_preferred_4"></a><a class="addthis_button_compact"></a></div>]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div class="addthis_toolbox addthis_default_style " addthis:url='http://liesdamnedliesstatistics.com/2010/10/ny-times-more-popular-ft-on-the-ipad-than-in-print.html' addthis:title='NY Times more popular on Twitter, FT on the iPad than in print '  ><a class="addthis_button_facebook_like" fb:like:layout="button_count"></a><a class="addthis_button_tweet"></a><a class="addthis_counter addthis_pill_style"></a></div><p><strong> </strong>When it comes to the decline of print media, the US is slightly ahead of  curve compared to the UK, with the two countries occupying the number  one <a href="http://liesdamnedliesstatistics.com/2010/07/newspapers-carry-on-losing-print-readers-but-digital-revenues-unlikely-to-make-up-the-shortfall.html">and two spots in earlier OECD research about the decline of  newspapers.</a></p>
<p><a href="http://twitter.com/#%21/nytimes"><img src="http://gallery.mailchimp.com/376317b49e8ebfee814dd56df/images/The_New_York_Times_nytimes_on_Twitter_1287954902390.png" border="0" alt="" /></a></p>
<p>As a result, it&#8217;s interesting to note a milestone from the US.   <a href="http://bit.ly/brBfbN">A study by Journalistics</a> shows that the NY Times has become the 1st major newspaper to have more  Twitter followers than print subscribers (2,668,948 vs 951,000)</p>
<p>That stat has attracted a fair amount of attention, but it&#8217;s of course  as much testament to the New York Times&#8217; successful online strategy as  it is to the state of the newspaper market.</p>
<p>And the UK?  <a href="http://bit.ly/9Xzvdl">According to the Wallblog</a>,  so far every UK newspaper has a Twitter following far below its print  subscription, with the FT coming closest (216k Twitter followers  @financialtimes vs 390k print buyers)</p>
<p><strong>FT&#8217;s iPad app makes £1 million</strong></p>
<p>The Financial Times might not yet be more popular on Twitter than in  print, but it is on the iPad, where 400,000 people have downloaded the  application.</p>
<p>According to the paper&#8217;s deputy chief executive Ben Hughes, <a href="http://bit.ly/cnmX7h">it has also netted £1 million in advertising revenue since May</a>.</p>
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<p>Separately, Nielsen found that 91% of iPad owners have downloaded applications (<a href="http://bit.ly/9UeBNI">correcting an earlier story that 32% didn&#8217;t download an app</a>), with games, books and music being the most popular categories.</p>
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		<title>The newspaper market carries on shrinking, but digital revenues unlikely to make up the shortfall</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 04 Jul 2010 07:07:29 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Dirk Singer</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[<div class="addthis_toolbox addthis_default_style " addthis:url='http://liesdamnedliesstatistics.com/2010/07/newspapers-carry-on-losing-print-readers-but-digital-revenues-unlikely-to-make-up-the-shortfall.html' addthis:title='The newspaper market carries on shrinking, but digital revenues unlikely to make up the shortfall '  ><a class="addthis_button_facebook_like" fb:like:layout="button_count"></a><a class="addthis_button_tweet"></a><a class="addthis_counter addthis_pill_style"></a></div>Here are a bunch of charts and reports about the newspaper market worth looking at side by side. On one hand, an OECD report (via a post by Erina Lin in sfnblog) again confirms that in the UK and US the newspaper market is in a steady period of decline.   And on the other hand, [...]<div class="addthis_toolbox addthis_default_style addthis_32x32_style" addthis:url='http://liesdamnedliesstatistics.com/2010/07/newspapers-carry-on-losing-print-readers-but-digital-revenues-unlikely-to-make-up-the-shortfall.html' addthis:title='The newspaper market carries on shrinking, but digital revenues unlikely to make up the shortfall ' ><a class="addthis_button_preferred_1"></a><a class="addthis_button_preferred_2"></a><a class="addthis_button_preferred_3"></a><a class="addthis_button_preferred_4"></a><a class="addthis_button_compact"></a></div>]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div class="addthis_toolbox addthis_default_style " addthis:url='http://liesdamnedliesstatistics.com/2010/07/newspapers-carry-on-losing-print-readers-but-digital-revenues-unlikely-to-make-up-the-shortfall.html' addthis:title='The newspaper market carries on shrinking, but digital revenues unlikely to make up the shortfall '  ><a class="addthis_button_facebook_like" fb:like:layout="button_count"></a><a class="addthis_button_tweet"></a><a class="addthis_counter addthis_pill_style"></a></div><p>Here are a bunch of charts and reports about the newspaper market worth  looking at side by side.</p>
<p>On one hand, <a href="http://www.oecd.org/dataoecd/30/24/45559596.pdf">an OECD report</a> (via <a href="http://www.sfnblog.com/circulation_and_readership/2010/06/us_and_uk_see_biggest_newspaper_circulat.php">a  post by Erina Lin</a> in sfnblog) again confirms that in  the UK and US the newspaper market is in a steady period of  decline.   And on the other hand, <a href="http://adage.com/mediaworks/article?article_id=144684">an article in AdAge</a>, shows that digital  revenues almost certainly aren&#8217;t making up the losses.<br />
<a href="http://www.oecd.org/document/48/0,3343,en_2649_34223_45449136_1_1_1_1,00.html"><br />
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<p><a href="http://liesdamnedliesstatistics.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/07/newspapermarketdecline1.png"><img class="aligncenter size-full wp-image-1658" title="newspapermarketdecline1" src="http://liesdamnedliesstatistics.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/07/newspapermarketdecline1.png" alt="" width="500" height="311" /></a></p>
<p>The OECD shows that between 2007-2009  not a single member country  saw an increase in the newspaper market.  Note, that the OECD&#8217;s  definition of the newspaper market is: &#8220;Online and offline circulation  and advertising revenues of traditional newspaper publishers&#8221; &#8211; in other  words everything that traditional papers do to make money.</p>
<p>The US (-30% decline) and the UK (-21%) very much led the way,  though among English speaking countries, Australia bucked the trend,  &#8216;only&#8217; seeing a 3% fall in the same period.</p>
<p>Here is another chart from the same report showing that while seniors are still  most likely to read a paper, the % who regularly read a newspaper in  the US has been going down among all age groups.</p>
<p><a href="http://liesdamnedliesstatistics.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/07/whoreadsnewspaper.jpg"><img class="aligncenter size-full wp-image-1654" title="whoreadsnewspaper" src="http://liesdamnedliesstatistics.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/07/whoreadsnewspaper.jpg" alt="" width="500" height="283" /></a><br />
<strong>50% of UK newspaper revenues down to sales</strong><br />
Though the US and UK lead the world in their shrinking newspaper  industries, they are affected in different ways.</p>
<p><a href="http://liesdamnedliesstatistics.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/07/circulationsads.jpg"><img class="aligncenter size-full wp-image-1655" title="circulationsads" src="http://liesdamnedliesstatistics.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/07/circulationsads.jpg" alt="" width="500" height="312" /></a></p>
<p>With 50% of revenue  coming from circulations, UK newspapers are more at risk from changing  demographics, with younger consumers in particular not being in the  habit of buying a morning paper.   With 87% of revenue coming from  advertising, US publishers have by comparison been hit harder by the  general economic downturn.</p>
<p><strong>US Newspapers now only have 30% of the digital advertising pie</strong><br />
However, circulations and ad revenues are clearly linked, and here is  the bad news.</p>
<p><a href="http://adage.com/mediaworks/article?article_id=144684">From the  AdAge article, &#8216;Mounting Web Woes Pummel Newspapers&#8217;</a>, US Newspapers  are not succeeding in getting a decent share of the whole digital  advertising pie.   Even as digital advertising as a whole increases in  value, US papers&#8217; share of the total has gone down to around 30%.</p>
<p><a href="http://liesdamnedliesstatistics.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/07/adrevenues.jpg"><img class="aligncenter size-full wp-image-1656" title="adrevenues" src="http://liesdamnedliesstatistics.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/07/adrevenues.jpg" alt="" width="500" height="375" /></a></p>
<p>In fact, <a href="http://mumbrella.com.au/2009/02/08/guest-posting-despite-murdochs-woes-shifting-from-print-to-web-wont-save-newspapers/">writing  on Australian Marketing website Mumbrella over a year ago</a>,  journalism professor Stephen Quinn <a href="../2009/03/the-decline-of-print-media-%E2%80%93-regular-round-up.html">pointed  out</a> that while classified advertising used to represent 40% of  newspaper profits back in 2000, thanks to the likes of Gumtree and  Craigslist, that total had gone down to 23%.</p>
<p>More tellingly, Professor Quinn said that when looking at the New York Times, its online  advertising revenues would only pay for a fifth of its news gathering  budget.</p>
<p>Before we start writing off newspapers completely though, there are  another set of figures from the OECD report worth looking at.  While the  OECD countries saw their newspaper markets decline, when you look at  emerging markets such as South Africa, India, China and Brazil, a  completely different picture emerges.</p>
<p><a href="http://liesdamnedliesstatistics.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/07/emergingmarkets.jpg"><img class="aligncenter size-full wp-image-1657" title="emergingmarkets" src="http://liesdamnedliesstatistics.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/07/emergingmarkets.jpg" alt="" width="499" height="296" /></a></p>
<p>While circulations in OECD countries went down year by year from  2003-2008 in the so-called BIICS (Brazil, India, Indonesia, China, South  Africa) they steadily went up.    To take India as just one example,  the % that regularly reads a newspaper went up  from 17% in 2003 to 37% in 2008.</p>
<p>As a result, worldwide &#8211; certainly  outside of the minority of countries where Internet penetration is 50% &#8211;  the newspaper industry is actually a growth industry.</p>
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		<title>2010 the worst year for newspapers?</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 28 Mar 2010 14:48:19 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Dirk Singer</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[<div class="addthis_toolbox addthis_default_style " addthis:url='http://liesdamnedliesstatistics.com/2010/03/2010-the-worst-year-for-newspapers.html' addthis:title='2010 the worst year for newspapers? '  ><a class="addthis_button_facebook_like" fb:like:layout="button_count"></a><a class="addthis_button_tweet"></a><a class="addthis_counter addthis_pill_style"></a></div>While the New York Times reports that 2009 was officially the worst year for the newspaper industry in &#8216;decades&#8217;, journalism blogger and pundit Alan Mutter says 2010 could be even worse. Three US based stats from Alan&#8217;s blog: 1 &#8211; Classified advertising is down a massive 64% from the $17.3 billion it brought US papers [...]<div class="addthis_toolbox addthis_default_style addthis_32x32_style" addthis:url='http://liesdamnedliesstatistics.com/2010/03/2010-the-worst-year-for-newspapers.html' addthis:title='2010 the worst year for newspapers? ' ><a class="addthis_button_preferred_1"></a><a class="addthis_button_preferred_2"></a><a class="addthis_button_preferred_3"></a><a class="addthis_button_preferred_4"></a><a class="addthis_button_compact"></a></div>]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div class="addthis_toolbox addthis_default_style " addthis:url='http://liesdamnedliesstatistics.com/2010/03/2010-the-worst-year-for-newspapers.html' addthis:title='2010 the worst year for newspapers? '  ><a class="addthis_button_facebook_like" fb:like:layout="button_count"></a><a class="addthis_button_tweet"></a><a class="addthis_counter addthis_pill_style"></a></div><p>While the New York Times reports that 2009 <a href="http://mediadecoder.blogs.nytimes.com/2010/03/24/its-official-2009-was-worst-year-for-the-newpaper-business-in-decades/" target="_blank">was  officially the worst year for the newspaper industry</a> in &#8216;decades&#8217;,  journalism blogger and pundit Alan Mutter <a href="http://newsosaur.blogspot.com/2010/03/2010-may-be-even-worse-for-newspaper.html" target="_blank">says  2010 could be even worse</a>.</p>
<p>Three US based stats from Alan&#8217;s blog:</p>
<p>1 &#8211; Classified advertising is down a massive 64% from the $17.3 billion  it brought US papers in 2005.  Thanks <a href="http://www.craigslist.com/" target="_blank">Craiglist</a>, and in the UK, the likes  of <a href="http://www.gumtree.com/" target="_blank">gumtree</a></p>
<p>2 &#8211; Retail advertising was down 36% over the same period</p>
<p>3 &#8211; National advertising was down 44% since 2005</p>
<p>The problem is of course also a demographic one.   Apparently in the US,  the average age of newspaper readers is 55+ as shown in the video below  (<a href="http://steveouting.com/2010/03/19/average-newspaper-reader-age-56/?utm_source=feedburner&amp;utm_medium=feed&amp;utm_campaign=Feed%3A+steveouting+%28SteveOuting.com%29&amp;utm_content=Netvibes" target="_blank">via  Steveouting.com</a>).</p>
<p>And the UK probably isn&#8217;t too different in that  respect, <a href="http://www.parliament.uk/parliamentary_committees/lords_press_notices/pn211207comms.cfm" target="_blank">a Parliamentary Committee two years ago found that</a> newspaper  readership fell 40% among 25-34 year olds, but rose by 4% among 55-64  year olds &#8211; and if anything that trend will have increased over the past  two years, given that the UK nationals <a href="../2010/03/the-future-of-newspapers-in-an-online-world.html" target="_blank">have  lost more than the population of Wales in readers since then.</a></p>
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		<title>80%+ Twitter accounts inactive, but core users more committed</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Jan 2010 09:07:22 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Dirk Singer</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[<div class="addthis_toolbox addthis_default_style " addthis:url='http://liesdamnedliesstatistics.com/2010/01/80-twitter-accounts-inactive-but-core-users-more-committed.html' addthis:title='80%+ Twitter accounts inactive, but core users more committed '  ><a class="addthis_button_facebook_like" fb:like:layout="button_count"></a><a class="addthis_button_tweet"></a><a class="addthis_counter addthis_pill_style"></a></div>Back in April there were comparisons of Twitter = the new Second Life (i.e the hyped network of 2009) when Nielsen said that 60% of users lost interest after registering, leaving their accounts dormant. Though Twitter won&#8217;t be heading into obscurity like the virtual world (this New York Times article gives some good reasons why), [...]<div class="addthis_toolbox addthis_default_style addthis_32x32_style" addthis:url='http://liesdamnedliesstatistics.com/2010/01/80-twitter-accounts-inactive-but-core-users-more-committed.html' addthis:title='80%+ Twitter accounts inactive, but core users more committed ' ><a class="addthis_button_preferred_1"></a><a class="addthis_button_preferred_2"></a><a class="addthis_button_preferred_3"></a><a class="addthis_button_preferred_4"></a><a class="addthis_button_compact"></a></div>]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div class="addthis_toolbox addthis_default_style " addthis:url='http://liesdamnedliesstatistics.com/2010/01/80-twitter-accounts-inactive-but-core-users-more-committed.html' addthis:title='80%+ Twitter accounts inactive, but core users more committed '  ><a class="addthis_button_facebook_like" fb:like:layout="button_count"></a><a class="addthis_button_tweet"></a><a class="addthis_counter addthis_pill_style"></a></div><p><a href="http://liesdamnedliesstatistics.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/01/outtolunch.jpg"><img class="aligncenter size-full wp-image-1326" title="outtolunch" src="http://liesdamnedliesstatistics.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/01/outtolunch.jpg" alt="" width="500" height="375" /></a></p>
<p>Back in April there were comparisons <a href="../2009/04/why-twitter-isnt-like-second-life.html" target="_blank">of  Twitter = the new Second Life</a> (i.e the hyped network of 2009) when  Nielsen said that 60% of users lost interest after registering, leaving  their accounts dormant.</p>
<p>Though Twitter won&#8217;t be heading into obscurity like the virtual world  (<a href="http://www.nytimes.com/2010/01/03/weekinreview/03carr.html" target="_blank">this New York Times article gives some good reasons why</a>), it&#8217;s still  the case that Twitter&#8217;s actual user base is small compared to the number  of registrations <a href="http://www.computerworld.com/s/article/9148878/Twitter_now_has_75M_users_most_asleep_at_the_mouse">as  some new stats from RJMetrics show</a>.</p>
<p>In fact, according to RJMetrics, Twitter&#8217;s rate of churn isn&#8217;t 60% as  Nielsen found in April, it&#8217;s 80%+, with only 17% of Twitter accounts  sending a single tweet over the past month.</p>
<p>By comparison, back in 2007 when Twitter was much smaller and  really just for tech early adopters, 70% were making regular use of  it.   RJ Metrics boss Robert J Moore says that the key period really is  the first week &#8211; if someone gets to grips with the micro-blogging  service in the first seven days, the chances are that they will stick  with it.</p>
<p>Based on that churn rate, rather than 75 million registered Twitter  users, RJ Metrics says that the real number of people who actually use  it is more like 10-15 million worldwide.   And <a href="../2010/01/research-shows-twitter-slowly-becoming-less-anglophone.html" target="_blank">based  on earlier research by Sysomos</a>, 51% of that user base is in the US,  9% in Brazil, 7% in the UK, 4% in Canada and 2% in Australia, so  roughly speaking the number of active of active UK tweeple is around  700-900k.</p>
<p>RJ Metrics says that users who do make use of it <a href="http://sanfrancisco.bizjournals.com/sanfrancisco/stories/2010/01/25/daily30.html">are  increasingly engaged</a>.  This mirrors the report by Sysomos last year  about Twitter&#8217;s power users &#8211; the most committed 5% who account for 75%  of tweets.   <a href="../2009/08/twitters-power-users-who-are-they.html" target="_blank"></a></p>
<p><a href="../2009/08/twitters-power-users-who-are-they.html" target="_blank">Sysomos  found that</a> they were more likely to work in tech, the media and so  had the ability to take things that they saw on Twitter elsewhere.   Indeed, the gap between something breaking on Twitter and hitting the mainstream media <a href="http://liesdamnedliesstatistics.com/2009/10/save-your-reputation-in-48-hours-you-might-not-even-have-four.html" target="_blank">can be as little as four hours.<br />
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<a href="http://www.reuters.com/article/idUSTRE60Q0K520100127" target="_blank">Reuters  yesterday posted an article</a> that with its worldwide user base of 300  million Facebook was approaching &#8216;technological lock-in&#8217; and becoming a  new Google &#8211; a default Internet technology that&#8217;s difficult to ever  shift.   Based on the numbers above, Twitter is not remotely about to  reach that kind of status, but while it doesn&#8217;t tick the &#8216;reach&#8217; box, it  does tick the influence one.</p>
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